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Keiko Kurata
Other : Librarian of the National Diet LibraryOther : Professor EmeritusKeio University alumni (1981 Faculty of Law, 1984 Master of Letters, 1987 Doctor of Letters). Professor of Library and Information Science, Faculty of Letters, Keio University since 2001. 2021–23, Dean of the Faculty of Letters. Appointed Librarian of the National Diet Library in April 2024.
Keiko Kurata
Other : Librarian of the National Diet LibraryOther : Professor EmeritusKeio University alumni (1981 Faculty of Law, 1984 Master of Letters, 1987 Doctor of Letters). Professor of Library and Information Science, Faculty of Letters, Keio University since 2001. 2021–23, Dean of the Faculty of Letters. Appointed Librarian of the National Diet Library in April 2024.
Interviewer: Nozomi Ikeya
Faculty of Letters Professor of Library and Information ScienceMuseum Director of Keio Museum CommonsInterviewer: Nozomi Ikeya
Faculty of Letters Professor of Library and Information ScienceMuseum Director of Keio Museum Commons
An Appointment Out of the Blue
──Congratulations on your appointment as the Librarian of the National Diet Library. All of us in the department were very surprised, but what were your thoughts when you received the offer?
I first heard about it in mid-March. It was a sudden contact from the Secretariat of the Diet, saying, "There is talk of you becoming the Librarian." For a moment, I didn't quite process what was being said; it was a complete bolt from the blue (laughs).
For anyone in the field of library and information science, the Librarian of the National Diet Library is a position in a different world. Previous outside appointees, such as Dr. Makoto Nagao and Dr. Sawako Hanyu, were all former presidents of national universities. Therefore, I never imagined the offer would come to me.
Besides, I thought that once I retired, I would finally be able to focus on my own research.
──Especially since you were serving as the Dean of the Faculty of Letters.
That's right. I worried about whether I was up to the task. While Dr. Hanyu had already served as a female Librarian, there had never been a Librarian who was a researcher in library and information science. I felt this was a rare opportunity, and if I turned it down, I might be closing the path for those who follow me. So, I made up my mind and accepted the next day.
──As a researcher becoming the Librarian of the National Diet Library (NDL), were there specific things you wanted to consider or goals you had in mind?
I knew even before starting that the roles of a researcher and a Librarian are completely different. Therefore, I told myself that my past research wouldn't necessarily translate directly into the job.
So, what could I do? At the very least, as someone who has studied library and information science, how I can contribute to the NDL is a major challenge. Since there are expectations for me to do so, I must work hard to meet them, even if it is difficult.
The Role of the National Diet Library
──Now that you have actually started, are there parts that are different from what you imagined?
Yes. When I looked at the NDL from the outside, I saw it as a national library, so I understood it couldn't focus solely on academic research. However, once I joined, I truly felt that it is the "Diet Library." I realized for the first time on an intuitive level that this is a library of the legislative branch under the jurisdiction of the Diet, and its primary role is to provide legislative support activities for Diet members. Because it belongs to the legislative branch rather than the executive branch, there is a large framework where we must proceed while consulting with the House of Representatives and House of Councillors' Committees on Rules and Administration regarding budgets and staffing.
──But looking at the website, you also hold various events.
Yes. Yesterday and the day before, we had the "Kasumigaseki Open Day for Kids," where elementary and junior high school participants had time to talk with the Librarian. In particular, the International Library of Children's Literature in Ueno holds a great many events.
The Tokyo Main Library can only be used by those 18 and older. We do hold exhibitions and lectures, but it doesn't feel like we are constantly running events. We hold a major exhibition once every two years, and this autumn we will hold one themed around picture scrolls (emaki).
──Exhibitions can also be viewed quite extensively in digital format, right?
That's right. We put a lot of effort into digital exhibitions. Digitization is one of the major pillars of the NDL today. For example, we have "Portraits of Modern Japanese Figures," which collects portrait photographs of over 1,000 people who built modern Japan, and the "NDL Image Bank," which collects and publishes images of ukiyo-e and other works whose copyrights have expired. I believe these can be used by the general public, not just researchers.
Challenges of Digitization
──In recent years, there has been much talk about information literacy and creating digital foundations that various people can access, and how to encourage their use.
Our library has a collection of over 47 million items, of which about 4.18 million have been digitized. If users register, over 2 million items can be viewed over the internet from outside the library.
Initially, we started with publications from the Meiji era, so I think the users were limited to specialists. However, digitization has now progressed to the late 1990s, and even familiar items can be read through the "National Diet Library Digital Collections."
──So, digitization has significantly advanced the development of the information infrastructure.
Our goal was to digitize all domestic books published up to the year 2000, and we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. However, it gets difficult from here.
For books published after 2000, there are e-books, and even for those published in print, publishers often hold the digital data. If digital sales are expected in the future, we can imagine that publishers' concerns regarding the NDL digitizing and providing deposited publications will grow stronger.
The NDL has the role of comprehensively collecting and preserving publications issued in Japan. For print publications, we have proceeded with a certain level of understanding from authors and publishers. However, in a mix of print and digital, a major challenge is how to proceed with preserving and utilizing digital materials in a way that does not hinder the interests of publishers and bookstores.
──That part is quite different from the discussion regarding scholarly communication.
Yes. It is no exaggeration to say it has been largely decided that scholarly communication as a whole will become open access, but general books and newspapers are different. To build a foundation of knowledge, the NDL needs to collect all publications and preserve them forever for future use.
Digital materials have been added to the traditional collection and preservation of print publications. Regardless of the format, I believe it is a major mission of the NDL to inherit and maintain the foundation of knowledge for future users.
──How will university libraries or public libraries interact with the NDL in that context?
We have always had various cooperative relationships with public libraries, especially large ones like prefectural libraries, and I think they have certain expectations of the NDL.
Aside from providing materials, it seems there hasn't been much direct cooperation with university libraries until now. Couldn't the NDL explore more active collaboration with university libraries, which have a user base of researchers and students? Since I know some people in the university library community, I am thinking about what we might be able to do.
Advancements in Information Technology and Changing Roles
──We have high expectations. Regarding the big vision of how to make cultural resources accessible, is there anything you are particularly focused on?
Regarding how to access cultural resources, I strongly feel that responding to new advancements in information technology is unavoidable. Until now, libraries collected information in the form of "objects" and guaranteed access to those "objects." But now, the very concept of access has changed.
In the era of paper, to access information, one first had to collect the recorded items. However, when information is distributed digitally, it is not always necessary to preserve everything in terms of accessibility. To take it to an extreme, you just need to know "where it is." And it just needs to be in a usable state.
In the past, a library's strength lay in its holdings. There was a clear difference between a library with 10,000 volumes and one with 50 million, but if the competition becomes solely about whether one can access information, there is a possibility that the two could be reversed.
Beyond generative AI and blockchain, information technology will continue to develop. As all digital data becomes networked, how will we use a reliable foundation of knowledge? We will likely step into a world that is currently unimaginable.
I believe the era where collecting many "objects" constitutes an intellectual foundation is over. Looking toward the advancement of digital technology, we need a form that is not bound by the conventional wisdom of libraries.
──I see, that makes sense.
Until now, the NDL has very carefully organized the publications it collected comprehensively, building them up one by one. We have the spirit and pride of creating the national bibliography for all publications in Japan.
──That is an important role of the NDL, isn't it?
Yes. It is an important role that we cannot stop. I am not saying we should stop creating the national bibliography, but I think we have reached a time where we must ask ourselves if it is enough to just "do it thoroughly" as before, in an era where much information is open and networked, and digital is central.
It won't be easy, but I think we need to consider at an early stage how we can build a system that includes the organization of digitally published materials, moving beyond the current system based on print materials.
──Another important role for the NDL is making such information easy to access. I feel that NDL Search, which realizes this, has become quite substantial recently.
I think NDL Search has become very convenient because it allows you to search not only the NDL's print holdings but also the Digital Collections, WARP (Web Archiving Project), and even the holdings of public and university libraries nationwide. It is wonderful for searching reliable domestic information, but unlike university library discovery services, it doesn't allow for a combined search of information from databases of overseas papers and the like. Even within Japan, I think we are slightly lacking in attention to things accessible via the internet.
For example, for government reports, the print version appears in NDL Search, but some PDFs published on government websites do not. I wonder if we can do something by using new technologies more actively.
The Reason for Re-entering the Department of Library and Information Science
──After graduating from the Department of Political Science in the Faculty of Law, you entered the Department of Library and Information Science as a second-degree student. When did you become interested in library and information science?
I had no interest at all (laughs). When I graduated from university, it was before the Equal Employment Opportunity Act, so job opportunities for women graduating from four-year universities were basically zero. At the time, only a handful of famous companies said they would hire female four-year university graduates.
At that time, Keio University was hiring female four-year graduates specifically from the Department of Library and Information Science. Librarians were recognized as important and given special treatment. Since library work seemed interesting, I enrolled as a second-degree student. It wasn't that I was interested in library and information science itself (laughs).
──How was it once you entered?
There was a project related to scholarly information centered around Professor Yoshinari Tsuda, and Professor Shuichi Ueda and Professor Shunsaku Tamura were active as young faculty members. There were also Professor Kimio Hosono and Professor Masaya Takayama, making it a very illustrious team. In class, there was an analysis of quantitative data from public libraries. I had done basic computer work during my time in the Faculty of Law, but it was my first time writing a program myself to get results, and I felt like I could do something new and interesting. I was told that since I had already graduated from university, I should come to graduate school, so I applied for graduate school without graduating from the undergraduate program again.
──You entered as a second-degree student but went to graduate school after one year. What was your research in graduate school?
Even then, it was about scholarly information, and I did quantitative analysis of the research output of political science researchers. But even though I say quantitative, the data itself didn't exist back then, so it was an era of pasting things onto cards, counting them, and only using the computer at the very end.
My master's thesis was handwritten, and when I entered the Doctoral Programs, a giant word processor was introduced to the university for the first time, but each person could only use it for one hour. Programs were all written on cards, which were fed into a mainframe computer, and the data itself was processed using magnetic tapes. The output was a mountain of paper.
The Keio computer wasn't very user-friendly, so I used the University of Tsukuba's computer by connecting via telephone. But perhaps because the voltage changed just before reaching Tsukuba, the phone line kept cutting out. Every time it did, I had to start over from the beginning (laughs).
Expectations for the Department of Library and Information Science
──That sounds tough. After that, you spent a long time as a faculty member. What left an impression on you?
The Department of Library Science (at the time) was new within the Faculty of Letters, having been established after the war. It was created at Keio with support from the American Library Association, so in a sense, it was a bit of an outsider.
──That's the Japan Library School (JLS) established in 1951.
When it opened, it was within the Faculty of Letters but functioned as a fairly independent Japan Library School. After that, efforts were made to make it a department within the Faculty of Letters, but when I became a faculty member, it still felt like it was in the middle of that process.
Many of the professors in the department were strong in both computers and administrative work, so they were frequently entrusted with important tasks for the Faculty of Letters. As a newcomer, I was told I must never turn down faculty work, and I have passed that on to my juniors.
──I was also told it's better not to turn things down, which is partly why I accepted the work for KeMCo (Museum Commons) (laughs).
I believe that through such things, the Department of Library and Information Science came to be recognized within the faculty. My being elected as Dean was likely just a matter of timing within that accumulation of history. When I became Dean, the retired professors were very happy.
──Now that you have left the university, how do you view the Department of Library and Information Science?
I believe the Department of Library and Information Science has a role not only in training librarians but also in cultivating information literacy for all university students. Of course, one department cannot directly educate all students at Keio University, so I think it would be desirable if the department could provide a bit more support in considering systems and curricula to promote the development of information-handling skills and critical thinking.
I would like to see more effort put into things like the "Research Skills" course for graduate students that you, Professor Ikeya, are also involved in. I think it would be good to support teaching how to actually handle research data and how to search for it. American university libraries provide educational support regarding data on their websites as a matter of course.
──Do you have any expectations for your successors?
I just hope that research on scholarly communication never ceases within the Department of Library and Information Science.
──Thank you very much for today. I look forward to your continued success.
(Recorded on August 9, 2024, at the National Diet Library)
*Affiliations and titles are as of the time of publication.