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Satoru Yamada: Changing the World with "Locabo," a Gentle Carbohydrate Restriction

Publish: November 15, 2019

Participant Profile

  • Satoru Yamada

    Other : Director of the Diabetes Center, Kitasato Institute Hospital, Kitasato UniversitySchool of Medicine Graduated

    Keio University alumni (1994 medical sciences). Ph.D. in Medicine. Representative Director of the "Eat, Enjoy, and Be Healthy Association." Current position since 2007. Active as a leading expert in carbohydrate restriction.

    Satoru Yamada

    Other : Director of the Diabetes Center, Kitasato Institute Hospital, Kitasato UniversitySchool of Medicine Graduated

    Keio University alumni (1994 medical sciences). Ph.D. in Medicine. Representative Director of the "Eat, Enjoy, and Be Healthy Association." Current position since 2007. Active as a leading expert in carbohydrate restriction.

  • Interviewer: Hiroyuki Wakui

    Other : Director of Unagi Kappo "Oedo"

    Keio University alumni

    Interviewer: Hiroyuki Wakui

    Other : Director of Unagi Kappo "Oedo"

    Keio University alumni

The Dietary Therapy Known as "Locabo"

──Mr. Yamada, a specialist in diabetes, you have been making headlines by advocating a carbohydrate-restricted diet called "Locabo." What exactly is Locabo?

Yamada

"Locabo" is a shortening of "low carbohydrate." Carbohydrates can be divided into sugars and dietary fiber. However, in places like the United States, the term "low carbohydrate" is a concept and name that includes extreme carbohydrate restriction. If you demand strict dietary restrictions, it becomes too painful to continue. Therefore, we are spreading "gentle carbohydrate restriction" as "Locabo."

I also thought that abbreviating it to three characters would make it more familiar, similar to "Metabo" (metabolic syndrome), where Locabo is effective, or "Locomo" (locomotive syndrome), where muscles and bones weaken. In any case, the condition is to gently restrict carbohydrates and enjoy your eating habits.

──So, in that way, you are improving the eating habits of people with diabetes or those at risk of it.

Yamada: Yes. To begin with, carbohydrate restriction is a dietary therapy where simply cutting back on carbohydrates improves all the components of so-called metabolic syndrome, such as weight, blood sugar, blood pressure, and hyperlipidemia.

Yamada

It used to be thought that people became obese because they ate too much, but in fact, that is not the case. We now know that excessive energy intake occurs as a result, and the cause is excessive carbohydrate intake.

Yamada

When you take in excessive carbohydrates, postprandial hyperglycemia (high blood sugar after a meal) occurs. Then, to suppress that, a large amount of the hormone insulin is released with a delay. This creates obesity by throwing energy into fat cells, while simultaneously causing a rapid drop in blood sugar.

Yamada

This rapid drop in blood sugar creates a terrible sense of hunger. Then, an irresistible appetite emerges, and you keep eating. That is why overeating occurs and obesity is promoted. When obesity occurs, substances that make blood pressure rise more easily are also released from visceral fat, and the fats released from there also lead to hyperlipidemia.

──In that sense, carbohydrate restriction is important.

Yamada

That's right. If you suppress postprandial hyperglycemia, you can suppress all the components of metabolic syndrome. Since carbohydrates are the only factor that creates postprandial hyperglycemia, we have learned that we can defeat metabolic syndrome by cutting back on them.

The reason it must be "gentle" is that even if doing it extremely seems to have a greater therapeutic effect, in reality, people become unable to continue and end up rebounding.

We are advocating "Locabo," a gentle carbohydrate restriction where you have between 20 and 40 grams of carbohydrates per meal for three meals, and separately allow up to 10 grams of treats per day, so that you can enjoy your meals.

──Is Locabo a diet?

Yamada

For people who are overweight, it is a diet. However, among Japanese people, there are also thin people with diabetes, so for them, the goal is not to lose weight, but strictly to correct blood sugar levels. These people need to manage their blood sugar while building muscle, and Locabo makes that possible.

──The goal of Locabo is a dietary lifestyle for becoming healthy. Roughly how many people in Japan have diabetes?

Yamada

It is said that there are 10 million diabetic patients and 10 million in the high-risk group, but in fact, this is only based on fasting blood samples. Originally, people of the Mongoloid race, such as the Japanese, tend to have blood sugar levels that rise easily after meals, so that is what should be investigated. If we do that, I believe there may be around 40 million people with blood sugar abnormalities.

Therefore, I believe that everyone should adopt the Locabo lifestyle once they reach their 30s.

Breaking the Myth of Calorie Restriction

──So you are popularizing these dietary improvements.

Yamada

In 2013, I established an organization called the "Eat, Enjoy, and Be Healthy Association," and it has been six years of steady activity, communicating the way to have a healthy dietary lifestyle that is fun and makes you want to continue to various companies, including family restaurants and convenience stores.

──I believe the "calorie restriction" method used to be the mainstream. You changed this to carbohydrate restriction. Was this not difficult?

Yamada

Actually, we also believed for a long time that calorie-restricted diets were correct and guided patients accordingly, but in reality, they are truly meaningless.

Research has reported that current calorie-restricted diets, whether based on current guidelines or even stricter cases, have resulted in weight gain.

That's why I wanted to somehow break the myth of calorie restriction. In the end, even if you feel like you're succeeding by going hungry and enduring it all day, one day you'll think, "just for today," and eat until you're full, so you may ultimately end up with the same energy intake.

──Calorie restriction is about suppressing the amount you eat—a regulation of quantity—but with carbohydrate restriction, as long as you don't take in carbohydrates, you can eat as much as you want. I actually tried it myself, and clearly, carbohydrate restriction is more stress-free and can be continued longer.

Yamada

I also used to be about 10 kilograms heavier than I am now, and I tried calorie restriction, only to rebound spectacularly. Since I encountered carbohydrate restriction, even though I eat until I'm full every day, I have properly stayed at the weight I was during my student days.

──But if you ask whether carbohydrate restriction is completely stress-free, Japanese people love rice, so resisting that is the highest hurdle.

Yamada

Exactly. That is why we are having the member companies of the Eat, Enjoy, and Be Healthy Association develop low-carbohydrate bread, noodles, sweets, and so on. If we can create low-carbohydrate rice that is fluffy and chewy, it will be solved in one stroke.

In that sense, the "Salmon and Avocado Olive Oil Bowl" that Mr. Wakui developed for the "Nihonbashi Locabo Festival" this time is wonderful. You used rice with slightly reduced carbohydrates and masked it well while suppressing carbohydrates with the fats and proteins of the salmon and avocado.

If we can restrict carbohydrates while enjoying Japan's rice culture, this will definitely become an export industry.

Broadcasting from Nihonbashi

──The "Nihonbashi Locabo Festival" being held yesterday and today (October 28th and 29th) is in its second year.

Yamada

We have received the support of Mr. Wakui and everyone at the restaurants in Nihonbashi. It is truly gratifying to have not just one shop, but the entire Nihonbashi area—which is like the source of Japanese culture—participating.

──How to balance lowering carbohydrates with delicious food was something I worried about quite a bit. When I first heard the idea, I thought, "There's no way we can do that."

Yamada

Starting with the "Salmon and Avocado Olive Oil Bowl" I mentioned earlier, everyone is creating wonderful meals. What I asked of the chefs in Nihonbashi was simply to serve delicious Locabo meals. After all, if customers have a choice between something delicious and unhealthy versus something delicious and healthy, they will surely choose the healthy one.

We had famous, long-established establishments representing Nihonbashi join us, such as Mr. Ninaga of "Funazushi," who is the head of the Nihonbashi Restaurant Association, as well as "Shigenosushi" and the Japanese restaurant "Yukari." Furthermore, with the cooperation of "Ninben" and "Eitaro Sohonpo," we started the "Nihonbashi Locabo Festival" last year to broadcast Locabo from Nihonbashi.

──Actually, the catalyst for this was the three years ago when it was our turn to be the organizing year for the "Chutobu Junior High School Alumni Day." There, I had my classmate Mr. Yamada give a lecture on Locabo, and I ended up creating dishes based on that philosophy. I want people to feel they can become healthy in Nihonbashi. I hope it becomes a catalyst for Japanese people to change their mindset.

Yamada

I am very grateful. Yukichi Fukuzawa emphasized jitsugaku (science), but since papers and research are only theories, I think it is jitsugaku (science) itself when it takes shape for the first time with the help of the chefs in Nihonbashi and various companies.

Actually, Dr. Shibasaburo Kitasato also spoke of "wisdom and practice." Practice not supported by wisdom will eventually fade away. However, wisdom that cannot be practiced has no value. I am convinced that if theory and the food of the real world enter a relationship where they enhance each other, Locabo can be spread throughout the world.

There is still a view that "healthy food = unpalatable food" or that it is an "idea that goes against tradition." In that context, if there is delicious Locabo in Nihonbashi while firmly protecting Japanese traditions, I believe it will spread to the world.

──I hear you are serving as a dietary advisor for soccer player Yuto Nagatomo. Does this mean there is a close relationship between sports and Locabo as well?

Yamada

In the past, it was thought that if you didn't eat carbohydrates, you would lack the nutrient source called glycogen in your muscles; we were taught that way during our student days as well. However, we have actually learned that as long as you take in enough energy, you can properly store glycogen even if you are restricting carbohydrates.

About three years ago, Mr. Nagatomo wrote in a magazine that he felt his athletic performance dropped when his blood sugar levels fluctuated wildly. Thinking that carbohydrate restriction would be effective, I contacted him through the publisher, and he showed interest, so we met.

And when he actually adopted Locabo, the frequency of leg cramps decreased and recovery from injuries became faster. His personal experience was that his condition truly improved, and the quality of his muscles became overwhelmingly better, so he became devoted to Locabo.

──When famous people support it, awareness spreads, doesn't it?

Yamada

That's right. I think it will truly spread if it becomes known not just as a diet for sick people to become healthy, but as something athletes adopt to improve their performance.

Passion for Facing Diabetes

──What was the catalyst for you to aim to become a diabetes specialist?

Yamada

In my third year as a doctor, Dr. Akira Shimada, currently a professor at Saitama Medical University, told me, "The greatest quality for a diabetes doctor is passion."

For example, in internal medicine such as cardiology, if the blood vessels are completely blocked, no matter how much passion a doctor has, they cannot save the patient. But for people with diabetes, even if they have incredibly high blood sugar, if we have the passion to provide them with correct knowledge about health, the patient's life can change and improve dramatically. When he told me this, I was deeply moved and decided I wanted to aim to be a diabetes specialist.

──Diabetes has various effects on the human body.

Yamada

Cardiovascular and kidney diseases often stem from diabetes, hyperlipidemia, or hypertension, and these should be suppressible if lifestyle habits can be firmly controlled. We call this primary prevention, and we can help many people there.

Among the causes of death for Japanese people, cancer, heart disease, stroke, and even pneumonia often stem from the aftereffects of a stroke, so two-thirds are caused by so-called lifestyle-related diseases. These are things that can be saved by Locabo. Even being bedridden—diabetes is actually related to osteoporosis and fractures, and it also greatly affects dementia.

──Doesn't changing a patient's lifestyle habits require a great deal of effort?

Yamada

I used to think about how to cause behavioral change in patients, but recently I've changed my approach. I have them show me a record of their eating habits and propose how much they can reduce carbohydrates while keeping their lifestyle habits as they are.

A lifestyle is built in a way that is most convenient for that person, so there are few people who can change it. I want to make proposals to reduce carbohydrates while keeping the patient's lifestyle as much as possible.

And whereas before it was about "how to endure and resist food," now it's just a single sentence: "Well then, please go and eat at Oedo." This lifestyle guidance is the easiest. Patients who are Keio University alumni are very happy, asking, "Is it really okay to go to Oedo?" (laughs).

──If there are many shops where you can say, "It's okay to go and eat there," the options will expand.

From the Kitasato Institute to the World

──What kind of place is the Kitasato Institute Hospital?

Yamada

Dr. Kitasato returned to Japan from the Koch Institute in Berlin in 1892. However, despite being a graduate of the University of Tokyo, he had no job because he had refuted the papers of the University of Tokyo professors regarding the discovery of the beriberi bacteria.

At that time, Yukichi Fukuzawa, who received a request from Dr. Sensai Nagayo, helped establish the Institute for Study of Infectious Diseases, and Dr. Kitasato became its Director. The following year, in 1893, when establishing the Tsukushigaoka Yojoen tuberculosis sanatorium, Yukichi Fukuzawa provided his own land for Dr. Kitasato. Then, the private Institute for Study of Infectious Diseases became national, and after Dr. Kitasato resigned from there, he built the Kitasato Institute on the site of the Tsukushigaoka Yojoen. The successor to the Tsukushigaoka Yojoen is the Kitasato Institute Hospital.

In that way, the bond between Yukichi Fukuzawa and Dr. Kitasato was deep, and when the Keio School of Medicine was established in 1917, Dr. Kitasato became the Dean of the School of Medicine. Even now, there are more graduates of the Keio School of Medicine than Kitasato University among the doctors at the Kitasato Institute Hospital, so it feels like a small Keio, and it has a higher degree of freedom than Keio.

──I see. Is that so?

Yamada

I spoke about "wisdom and practice" earlier, but there are three other words Dr. Kitasato left for us: "Pioneering," "Gratitude," and "Indomitable Spirit."

When I raised a flag of rebellion against the calorie-restricted diet—which has no scientific basis but has become common sense—and tried to introduce the carbohydrate-restricted diet (which the heavyweights of the academic societies had blindly criticized) to our hospital, the Kitasato Institute recognized it as "Pioneering." And I believe that raising a flag of rebellion against the calorie-restricted diet is precisely my "Gratitude" toward the heavyweights of the academic societies.

In Kendo, there is a concept of "Shu" (protect), "Ha" (break), and "Ri" (separate). Blindly "protecting" the teacher's teachings is the attitude required in the early stages. Once a certain level is reached, it is necessary to "break" the teacher's teachings, and finally, one "separates" completely from the teacher's teachings to create a new form of one's own.

I consider myself to be in the "Ha" stage now, and I believe the "Ri" stage will be when I, together with Mr. Wakui and the people of Nihonbashi, broadcast and advocate this gentle carbohydrate restriction to all of Japan and the world. I believe I was able to tackle carbohydrate restriction head-on precisely because I was at the Kitasato Institute.

──I truly look forward to your future activities as a leading advocate of Locabo in Japan.

*Affiliations and titles are as of the time this magazine was published.