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[Special Feature: Tokyo 2020 and Keio University] Special Interview with Ryota Yamagata: Looking Back on Tokyo 2020

Publish: December 15, 2021

Participant Profile

  • Ryota Yamagata

    Other : Track and Field AthleteFaculty of Policy Management Graduated

    2015 Faculty of Policy Management

    Ryota Yamagata

    Other : Track and Field AthleteFaculty of Policy Management Graduated

    2015 Faculty of Policy Management

  • Interviewer: Takayuki Inami

    Research Centers and Institutes Full-time Lecturer, Institute of Physical Education

    Interviewer: Takayuki Inami

    Research Centers and Institutes Full-time Lecturer, Institute of Physical Education

Measuring Performance

—Today, I would like to ask Mr. Yamagata about this season, focusing on the Tokyo 2020 Games. First of all, how did you perceive the fact that the Olympics were postponed for a year due to COVID-19?

Yamagata

For me, I saw it as being given a chance in a way. Of course, I had been preparing for 2020, but since I had injuries, the one-year postponement gave me more time to prepare, which had positive aspects.

—It must have been a unique tournament, preparing while feeling an atmosphere from the world like, "Are they really going to hold the Olympics?" This was your third consecutive Olympic appearance, but did it feel different from the previous two in the sense that it was held in your home country?

Yamagata

The atmosphere was quite different. I think both the athletes and the general public were forced to think about the significance of sports. In the sense that the tournament was held amidst such pros and cons, I felt a different atmosphere.

—Until now, you had been conditioning yourself alone before competitions, but since February of this year, you have been working with Coach Daiki Takano, who is also a sprint coach for the Juku Track and Field Club, and at the same time, you started taking various data about your own body in my laboratory (Sports Science Lab).

Yamagata

By starting to take data, I was able to become objective. It was good in the sense that I could track the numbers one by one. I had always wanted to increase my muscle mass, and I can see accurately whether it is actually increasing. I can see not only muscle mass but also things like fat mass.

Professor Inami also taught me how to read the numbers for body composition analysis, focusing on things like protein mass, and taught me how to increase those numbers and the correlation between those numbers and muscle mass, which allowed me to adjust the training load. There were many things I could apply to my actual training.

—Even if you aren't injured, there are always parts of your body that you worry about before a competition. How does it feel to actually use an ultrasound device, which is also used for pregnant women, on your muscles to see inside your own body? When you're a little tired, the muscles appear in a different color than usual, don't they?

Yamagata

I had seen it before when I was injured, so it wasn't a particularly strange sensation. If there is a problem area, I feel more relieved if it shows up properly.

Breaking the Japanese Record

—After building your body with that slightly different conditioning, you set a Japanese record (9.95 seconds, Fuse Sprint in Tottori City) on June 6th. What was it like to break the 10-second barrier?

Yamagata

My running style actually changed. Both the training content and the approach itself changed in various ways. I had been stuck for three years since setting my personal best of 10.00 in 2018, so I always thought I had to change something. However, I didn't really know specifically how to change it, and I also had injuries.

But thanks to the new initiatives this year, my running itself changed significantly, and a sense of running that I've never had before was born. In that context, I set a personal best for the first time in three years, so of course I'm happy with the record, but the feeling that I "broke out of my shell" was very significant for me.

—Like a breakthrough. When you set a good record, do you realize it after finishing and seeing the time? Or do you feel like "I can do this" while you're running?

Yamagata

The feeling of running from the day before was also good. So, I had a feeling that I could break the Olympic qualifying standard (10.05 seconds). When I ran one heat, even though the feeling of the race wasn't that good, I clocked 10.01, so even with the wind assist, I thought, "With this feeling, I might go into the 9-second range in the final."

However, in the final, I tried not to think too much about the record. Normally, I think I would have been more conscious of the 9-second range, but when I focused solely on the competition, the record came out. It's interesting.

—I think there are various pressures at a tournament. Do you have a routine before you start?

Yamagata

I don't have a routine. I think of not having one as my routine, and I keep it undecided. On the contrary, deciding on one becomes a cause for anxiety, or rather, I think I would be shaken if I couldn't do it, so I try not to think about it too much.

—Did you come to think that way after many twists and turns?

Yamagata

No, it's been that way for a long time. I don't like things that don't have much basis, and I think it's important to demonstrate my usual strength.

The ground you stand on is different for each tournament, and the pressure is different, so if you just keep the movements the same, will your feelings be settled? I think that might be a bit simplistic.

—I see. In track and field, there are environmental differences due to wind and rain, but is it a sport where it's easy to get results when conditions are good?

Yamagata

That's right. I want to pursue the idea that as long as I am prepared in a way that suits me at that time, rather than a routine, the record will come.

The Japan Championships that Decided the Olympics

—After setting the Japanese record, it was inevitable that attention would be focused on you. Was there a lot of pressure at the Japan Championships (June 25, Osaka), which also served as the Olympic trials?

Yamagata

You do become conscious of it. I wasn't in good shape when I entered the venue for the Japan Championships. Even so, at first, I thought third place was secure, but once I ran one heat in the qualifiers, I realized I was in a pretty dangerous position. I felt like there were about three athletes faster than me with energy to spare, so I thought, "This might be bad," and it actually became a very tough battle.

—But as a result, you finished 3rd and your participation was decided. How did you feel at that time?

Yamagata

The main thing was relief. All of this was because I had set the Japanese record once in June.

But looking back, grabbing the ticket to the Olympics itself—it might be an exaggeration to call it a miracle—but I think I was blessed with the opportunity. This season had an extremely tight schedule, and I think I've come from a very precarious state.

Since I also had injuries, I was half-prepared to accept it even if I couldn't participate. Considering that, I have to feel grateful and happy that I was able to slide into third place and get the right to represent Japan. To be honest, I felt stiff with tension on the day.

—I also felt like one of my own relatives was running, so I couldn't really look at the TV screen (laughs).

Being Chosen as Captain of the Japanese Delegation

—How was it when the talk of becoming the captain of the Japanese delegation first came to you?

Yamagata

Well, I thought about declining (laughs). Of course, I thought they would make various considerations so as not to interfere with the competition, but the burden to carry is also large, so I was worried.

—Even so, did you have some special feeling that made you accept it?

Yamagata

I think it's because I'm someone in the position of doing sports, but I really think it was good that we could have the Olympics in Tokyo this time.

Amidst various opinions during the COVID-19 pandemic, I reached the conclusion that "No, it's still worth doing." And I also wanted to convey that meaning through my attitude toward the competition. I wanted to communicate something, I suppose. I thought it would be a very symbolic Olympics to convey the significance of sports.

In the end, it took the form of being held, but in the midst of not knowing what would happen, I thought the value of the Olympics lies in the attitude of moving forward with courage. I understand that this is a story built on various sacrifices, so I can't say it loudly, but...

Instead of stopping something, we must be proactive about moving forward. If so, I thought it would be good if people could feel me playing with all my might.

—So you accepted the captaincy with those thoughts. Coincidentally, Takashi Ono, who served as captain during the previous 1964 Tokyo Games, was also a Keio University alumni. It feels like some kind of fate that Keio-related people were captains for both Games held in Tokyo.

Yamagata

I do feel a connection. I'm glad I could follow in the footsteps of my senior.

In the end, the fact that I accepted the captaincy was also because I had a feeling that I wanted the world to become a better place, although it's an exaggeration to say I'm carrying sports on my back in my own way. I think perhaps Senior Ono felt the same way.

—Watching the athletes' oath at the opening ceremony on TV, I could see you were nervous. But there's no way you wouldn't be nervous (laughs).

Yamagata

I was nervous (laughs).

—Is that still the case even without an audience?

Yamagata

Yes. You shouldn't think about things at a time like that. Because the more you think about how people all over the world are watching, or that His Majesty the Emperor is there, the more nervous you get. But actually, I was calmer than during the rehearsal. To be honest, I thought it was good that it went well.

—It was a splendid athletes' oath.

Yamagata

It was difficult to coordinate with Kasumi Ishikawa. There was only one rehearsal the day before. However, Ms. Ishikawa was in the bubble at the Olympic Village, but at that time I hadn't entered the village yet and was outside the bubble, so we couldn't have contact and our waiting rooms were separate.

We had to say the words together, but you can't exactly say "Ready, set, go," right? (laughs). When there was a little time, I went behind the scenes and practiced a few times.

Looking Back on the Olympic Competition

—Looking back on the Olympics, how do you perceive your own competition?

Yamagata

For me, both the individual and the relay ended in disappointing results. However, as a whole Japanese delegation, many medalists emerged, and I think there was a sense of the beauty of the moment when past efforts bore fruit and the excitement of the stories in each sport.

And while the excitement of "Amazing, a medal!" is part of the appeal of sports, it's a fact that if there's a winner, there are always more than twice as many losers there. I think we were attracting a lot of attention, especially in the relay, with people thinking "They might get a gold medal." But the moment the baton wasn't passed is also one side of sports. I believe sports is about including those parts, not just showing the good parts.

I might not have been able to meet expectations. I received messages saying, "I was so frustrated I cried," which really stung my heart. I also received critical opinions. But I also thought that it "stung" enough that they felt compelled to send a message.

To be honest, we also made as much preparation as possible. I'm not saying it's okay just because we showed our attitude, but I do think it led to conveying an appealing side of sports.

—Turning critical opinions into strength. Did it become a driving force for your desire to take on new challenges?

Yamagata

Yes. Anyway, as long as I'm active, I want to take everything positively. I have to turn frustration into energy so that I can say "I am who I am today because of that experience," so I will switch my mindset and keep going.

From Hiyoshi to the World Again

—The number of domestic tournaments is still being limited this year, but how do you intend to approach the next step?

Yamagata

I think my big motivation lies in my own daily growth—that is, becoming able to understand things I didn't understand, or becoming able to do things I couldn't do.

So, there are things I can do even without tournaments. Right now, I have a bad knee, and I'm always practicing with an awareness of what is needed to solve that and what kind of future awaits beyond that solution. I want to spend each day importantly in that way.

—Did you have that kind of thinking since you were a student, not just now that you are at the level of a top athlete?

Yamagata

It's been that way all along. Even for students, if they get injured it's painful, but if they can think of that as "fun" as well, I think it will become much easier.

I think it's very stifling to think that if you aren't getting results, you aren't moving forward. Even if you aren't getting results, you still "change," don't you? When I'm injured and can't run, I enjoy the change by doing things I haven't done before, like weight training. I hope people can focus on the fact that they are able to grow day by day.

—That's great. I think students who read this article will be very encouraged. What kind of thoughts do you have about the Hiyoshi track and field stadium where you practice every day?

Yamagata

For me, I don't think there are many places as easy to access and easy to use, including the track and facilities, as Hiyoshi. There is also the advantage of being able to take measurements at the Institute of Physical Education.

—You can measure changes immediately after practice. Is your recognition that Hiyoshi is your home ground?

Yamagata

That's right. I've thought about going to the NTC (National Training Center), but I still like Hiyoshi.

The track is also easy to run on. The ground is hard, so it's great that I can get speed. After all, generating speed is a very important thing for track athletes that puts a load on the body. The wind also blows in a relatively constant direction, so I can use that to increase or suppress training intensity. There are also strength training facilities for the Track and Field Club, and there are many benefits to practicing here. I sometimes feel sorry that I might be getting in the way of the active students, though.

—But the students are watching closely. They think, "Mr. Yamagata is doing it this way. I should think about it too." I think it's quite a good stimulus.

Yamagata

The Track and Field Club dormitory is on the other side of Mamushidani, and I still stay there sometimes. While talking with the students. I want to continue to value those kinds of things.

—It's wonderful that you have such interactions. Right now, it feels like you're working hard toward the next step while conditioning yourself and properly healing your knee.

Yamagata

That's right. Next year, and then three years from now, there are the World Athletics Championships and the Paris Olympics. It'll be here in no time, so I'll do my best.

—We look forward to your future success. Thank you very much for today.

(Recorded on September 29, 2021, at the Hiyoshi Track and Field Stadium)

*Affiliations and job titles are as of the time this magazine was published.